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together we'll go far. >>> in tonight's rewrite, paul ryan continues to rewrite paul ryan. on the many things that paul ryan can no longer say. now that he's mitt romney's running mate. two years ago paul ryan said, correctly, that the cayman islands are quote the place you hide your money. see? paul ryan can be right sometimes. but he can't be right about the cayman islands anymore, thanks to mitt romney. so he just doesn't mention the cayman islands anymore. and a few years ago, paul ryan said this about his favorite philosopher. >> i grew up reading ayn rand and it taught my quite a bet about who i am and what my value systems are and what my believes are. it's inspired my so much that it's required reading in my office for my staff. the reason i got involved in public service if i had to credit one thinker it would be ayn rand. when i had to point out that ayn rand was an atheist, paul ryan was then forced to say this. >> i reject her philosophy. it's an atheist philosophy. >> which was exactly what we were hoping he would say. in that same speech where paul ryan swore
together we'll go far. >>> in tonight's rewrite, paul ryan continues to rewrite paul ryan. on the many things that paul ryan can no longer say. now that he's mitt romney's running mate. two years ago paul ryan said, correctly, that the cayman islands are quote the place you hide your money. see? paul ryan can be right sometimes. but he can't be right about the cayman islands anymore, thanks to mitt romney. so he just doesn't mention the cayman islands anymore. and a few years ago, paul...
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the answer is more paul ryan. i would like to see more of paul ryan not just on the stump at these rallies but doing a lot more media. i also think it would probably work in mitt romney's favor to have paul ryan play a more traditional vp role, which is it should be paul ryan out there on the sunday shows and in the press. >> instead of buchanan, for example? >> i don't mind surrogates. i don't think mitt romney needs to be the one calling out president obama is egypt an ally or not or is israel an ally or not? this should be paul ryan's job. paul ryan should be the one sort of calling out obama, and mitt romney should be running for president. i don't think it's that ryan isn't capable. he is. he's very good at this. so there's a lot of sort of second-guessing as to what the strategy within the campaign is. i talked to a bunch of strategists off the record who had their own takes what's going on here. frankly, as a voter, i don't care. i want to see more of paul ryan. >> there's a reason. the reason actually stra
the answer is more paul ryan. i would like to see more of paul ryan not just on the stump at these rallies but doing a lot more media. i also think it would probably work in mitt romney's favor to have paul ryan play a more traditional vp role, which is it should be paul ryan out there on the sunday shows and in the press. >> instead of buchanan, for example? >> i don't mind surrogates. i don't think mitt romney needs to be the one calling out president obama is egypt an ally or not...
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one thing about paul ryan, he passed a budget twice. he did what he had to do. he stepped up to his responsibilities as budget chairman and got a budget passed twice. the president walked away from the debt commission and has never -- >> how about if a ship sank and two people left before it sank and one blamed the other for leaving before it sank? oh, i also left the ship before it sank. just a thought. it's useful information. >> let's talk about the two budgets that ryan passed. they had the very same medicare cuts that paul ryan now criticizes the president for. and while they talk about balancing the budget, which sounds really good and got a lot of applause at the republican convention last night -- hold on one second. they've got a $4.3 billion tax cut that's not paid for. neither is -- >> let's take a look at -- let ryan speak for himself. here he is talking about the failure of obama to support simpson-bowles and his deficit-reduction effort. let's watch. >> he created a new bipartisan debt commission. they came back with an urgent report. he thanked th
one thing about paul ryan, he passed a budget twice. he did what he had to do. he stepped up to his responsibilities as budget chairman and got a budget passed twice. the president walked away from the debt commission and has never -- >> how about if a ship sank and two people left before it sank and one blamed the other for leaving before it sank? oh, i also left the ship before it sank. just a thought. it's useful information. >> let's talk about the two budgets that ryan passed....
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look, mitt romney did not pick paul ryan because of paul ryan's medicare or budget programs. he picked paul ryan because of his youthfulness, because of the cultural appeal, because of what paul ryan himself calls the deer hunter catholic that he is, okay? that might sell in pennsylvania, but the other stuff won't. and if we're going to be cutting medicare at some point, which i think most voters understand, i think right now looking at these alternatives, they would rather have a democrat they know than a republican from a party that never supported the program to begin with. >> let me go to joy on that. joy-ann, it seems to me that people who once you get into your late 60s, early 70s, into your 80s, you have one primary care, and that's what you're always talking about with your friends, how is your health? how is it going? you're social life in many ways is going to see the doctor. you have to survive, see your kids and grandkids. you don't walk away and say i'd like to cut it but i don't like his health care program. it's pretty hard to separate. >> the most remarkable t
look, mitt romney did not pick paul ryan because of paul ryan's medicare or budget programs. he picked paul ryan because of his youthfulness, because of the cultural appeal, because of what paul ryan himself calls the deer hunter catholic that he is, okay? that might sell in pennsylvania, but the other stuff won't. and if we're going to be cutting medicare at some point, which i think most voters understand, i think right now looking at these alternatives, they would rather have a democrat they...
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they had the very same medicare cuts that paul ryan now criticizes the president for. and while they talk about balancing the budget, which sounds really good and got a lot of applause at the republican convention last night -- hold on one second. they've got a $4.3 billion tax cut that's not paid for. neither is -- >> let's take a look at -- let ryan speak for himself. here he is talking about the failure of president obama to support simpson-bowles and his deficit reduction effort. let's watch. >> he created a new bipartisan debt commission. they came back with an urgent report. he thanked them, sent them on their way, and then did exactly nothing. >> and what did ryan do? >> he passed his own budget. twice. >> simpson-bowles. >> he voted against it because he didn't like the fact there was no entitlement reforms in there. the fact of the matter when it comes to the medicare charge, yes, they have the same numbers, but they were different types of cuts. what obama has done -- he took the 700 -- >> cutting $700 billion. let's go beyond this because it's clear that rya
they had the very same medicare cuts that paul ryan now criticizes the president for. and while they talk about balancing the budget, which sounds really good and got a lot of applause at the republican convention last night -- hold on one second. they've got a $4.3 billion tax cut that's not paid for. neither is -- >> let's take a look at -- let ryan speak for himself. here he is talking about the failure of president obama to support simpson-bowles and his deficit reduction effort....
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>> we heard a lot about paul ryan because he told us a lot about paul ryan. chris kristi told us a lot about himself. -- chris christie. ryan just seems disingenuous. you get that impression he is playing a role, and he has been playing this role since the time he was a kid. >> if charles was here, he would give you a real one. i did bump into him and mark in florida, as you know. my question was -- how enthusiastic are these delegates about the head of the ticket? >> i think what is really interesting is how at the convention, they have managed to bring together a party with evangelical and the kind of moderates that romney would have represented. i think they have done a good job except for a few of the ron paul-ites. it is a convention that is united by its opposition and open hostility to barack obama. they were going to support whoever was the nominee. mitt romney may have -- may not have been their first choice, but they are falling behind him. i thought chris christie lighted up the place. >> real leaders do not follow polls. real leaders change polls.
>> we heard a lot about paul ryan because he told us a lot about paul ryan. chris kristi told us a lot about himself. -- chris christie. ryan just seems disingenuous. you get that impression he is playing a role, and he has been playing this role since the time he was a kid. >> if charles was here, he would give you a real one. i did bump into him and mark in florida, as you know. my question was -- how enthusiastic are these delegates about the head of the ticket? >> i think...
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do you know paul ryan? >> yes, very well. >> jon: now he is considered if i am not mistaken, and i am using just a nic nickname, the brainiac. >> he is the intel beck chul soul of the republican party. >> there is a lot of gravitation to him, his boldness to put a plan in writing on the table which he knew would be, you know, advice rated and taken apart, and interestingly must have not just by the left but also by the right, because folks forget -- newt gingrich showed it right wing social engineering. >> you have that and before that you have the leadership when confronted with the plan and asked about it say that is not our plan. so he knew full well what the risk would be but he was willing to take it and so my argument to him was do it now let's talk about it. >> jon: were you surprised last night when he gave a speech that was devoid of those kinds of policies and boldness and included for a guy with a reputation of being from what everybody says a straight shooter, a guy of hard truths that played so
do you know paul ryan? >> yes, very well. >> jon: now he is considered if i am not mistaken, and i am using just a nic nickname, the brainiac. >> he is the intel beck chul soul of the republican party. >> there is a lot of gravitation to him, his boldness to put a plan in writing on the table which he knew would be, you know, advice rated and taken apart, and interestingly must have not just by the left but also by the right, because folks forget -- newt gingrich showed...
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if conservatives are punting for paul ryan and his specifics, let's just remind everyone what paul ryan has proposed for his budget over the next several years. most famous was his 2011 program to turn medicare into a voucher program that would drive up out-of-pocket costs for seniors and make it hard to get insurance policies for somebody in their 70s or 80s. $2 of every $3 of that suggested savings would come from programs for the poor such as medicaid and food stamps. pell grants would also take a hit that's for kids who can't afford college. do the same while reducing individual and corporate rates which would give the lion share of tax cut rights to the richest americans. you talk about redistribution, joan and gene. this is a redistribution plan from the bottom to the top. i wouldn't throw that word redistribution around if i were mitt romney because his partner in happiness apparently like to do that. >> we've been doing it for 30 years, chris. we've been shoveling money from the bottom to the top. and, you know, that is exactly what they want to do, and i think they are paying t
if conservatives are punting for paul ryan and his specifics, let's just remind everyone what paul ryan has proposed for his budget over the next several years. most famous was his 2011 program to turn medicare into a voucher program that would drive up out-of-pocket costs for seniors and make it hard to get insurance policies for somebody in their 70s or 80s. $2 of every $3 of that suggested savings would come from programs for the poor such as medicaid and food stamps. pell grants would also...
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paul ryan will kick off a rally in orlando, his second in florida of the day. ryan attacking president obama for saying change comes from outside washington, not from inside. >> we sent presidents to change and fix the mess in washington. this president has admitted he can't change washington you know what, we need to change presidents! >> meanwhile, vice president joe biden pushing back on the question who's best to bring change to washington, arguing it's not mitt romney and paul ryan. >> the facts are they're doubling down on everything that caused the economic crisis in the first place. they want to shred regulations for wall street and the big banks again, want to double down on the tax cut. >>> meanwhile, president obama travels to the battleground state of wisconsin, his first campaign trip there. he will be visiting milwaukee for two campaign events. the big story we track, the reaction to the release of mitt romney's tax returns and show he paid a 14.1% effective rate in 2011. more on these stories and a whole lot more in the next two hours on msnbc. r
paul ryan will kick off a rally in orlando, his second in florida of the day. ryan attacking president obama for saying change comes from outside washington, not from inside. >> we sent presidents to change and fix the mess in washington. this president has admitted he can't change washington you know what, we need to change presidents! >> meanwhile, vice president joe biden pushing back on the question who's best to bring change to washington, arguing it's not mitt romney and paul...
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paul ryan what he did in his speech i think so stretched the truth and i like paul ryan have a lot of great respect for paul ryan but the now i'm upset he said about closing the g.m. plant which closed before obama took president about the simpson bowles which sensible which he opposed and then i'll finish you both barack obama or at some point the truth should matter of course one of the biggest deceptions of the speech was this one about president obama's reforms to medicare. seven hundred sixteen billion dollars funneled out of medicare by president obama. in an obligation we have to our parents and grandparents is being sacrificed all to pay for a new entitlement we didn't even ask for. the greatest threat to medicare is obamacare and we're going to stop it. none of us are president obama didn't cut a single penny from medicare that would affect a single payer read even just the opposite because seven hundred billion seven hundred sixteen billion dollars in waste fraud and corporate abuse and corporate handouts and that now by taking that out keeps the entire medicare program solv
paul ryan what he did in his speech i think so stretched the truth and i like paul ryan have a lot of great respect for paul ryan but the now i'm upset he said about closing the g.m. plant which closed before obama took president about the simpson bowles which sensible which he opposed and then i'll finish you both barack obama or at some point the truth should matter of course one of the biggest deceptions of the speech was this one about president obama's reforms to medicare. seven hundred...
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second several paul ryan didn't have. now let's talk about something else before shattering about that are. the idea, i believe the republicans when they say they did their best to work with barack obama and they hoped he would achieve some success in his administration. do you believe that. >> i do believe that and i know a lot of the folks in your audience might not but you have george w. bush who was under a serious cloud about his legitimatlegitimate see in 2001a fair number of crats to vote for that legislation despite the fact the democrats detected the guy. this is failure on the part of the president or just a failure on the part of the republicans. i think in that early period. >> stephen: a lot of the failure on behalf of the democrats that they are willing to compromise with people they don't like. whereas the republicans have the strength to not do anything for someone they want out of office after one term. [crowd cheering] give the republicans some credit. >> i actually don't think that's quite right. when y
second several paul ryan didn't have. now let's talk about something else before shattering about that are. the idea, i believe the republicans when they say they did their best to work with barack obama and they hoped he would achieve some success in his administration. do you believe that. >> i do believe that and i know a lot of the folks in your audience might not but you have george w. bush who was under a serious cloud about his legitimatlegitimate see in 2001a fair number of crats...
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ryan, i thought this would help launch paul ryan's career. but i have to say i now agree with you. look at how uncomfortable paul ryan was there and compare that also to just the way he's had to contort himself to try to fit into the romneyesque, we're not giving any details way of doing things. this is a guy who is the vp nominee who will never be president himself, you're right. he's just completely destroyed his reputation. >> and, keith, if the romney/ryan ticket loses as the polls indicate that it will, one of the big reasons is going to be paul ryan and the policies advanced by paul ryan in the republican house of representatives, policies that he forced them all to vote on and commit to at various points in time. what are the chances that republicans will realize how much of a problem paul ryan created for them in the last couple of years? >> i don't think it's very likely. i think the republicans seem to be in denial about what's going on. they marched into a herd to support the ryan plan. and even though newt gingrich called it right
ryan, i thought this would help launch paul ryan's career. but i have to say i now agree with you. look at how uncomfortable paul ryan was there and compare that also to just the way he's had to contort himself to try to fit into the romneyesque, we're not giving any details way of doing things. this is a guy who is the vp nominee who will never be president himself, you're right. he's just completely destroyed his reputation. >> and, keith, if the romney/ryan ticket loses as the polls...
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what did you do, paul ryan, to save that plant? you saw it when they put up the notice saying they were going to close it down. it was a republican president in office when that happened. what did you do with that republican president? what did you do with your republican leadership? what bill did you write? what did you try to push? >> lawrence, we -- >> to save that plant. >> we know what mitt romney did. he did nothing. he did zero. >> but it's really, martin, all the more pointed, this is a real congressman, representing his district actively, when he sees that plant heading toward closure, a real congressman goes to work in all sorts of ways that washington has to try to do something to intervene. he did absolutely nothing. while in office to intervene. mitt romney wasn't in office, he had no responsibility that he could possibly point to other than writing a wall street journal op-ed piece saying let it die, let all these plants die, but paul ryan who wants to exploit it now, exploit that image of friends of his from high sch
what did you do, paul ryan, to save that plant? you saw it when they put up the notice saying they were going to close it down. it was a republican president in office when that happened. what did you do with that republican president? what did you do with your republican leadership? what bill did you write? what did you try to push? >> lawrence, we -- >> to save that plant. >> we know what mitt romney did. he did nothing. he did zero. >> but it's really, martin, all the...
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that began with choosing of paul ryan. you have paul ryan on earlier. paul ryan is absolutely terrific. when you brought him on or when mitt romney brought him ons he had to defend paul ryan's budget. they spent half their days defending the budget of paul ryan in florida, in is have, in ohio, and the other battleground states. my suggestion to mitt romney is, do what ronald reagan did. go around the media. buy air time in florida. buy air time in virginia. buy air time in ohio and dress -- and address those states and show leadership. >>neil: thank you. it keeps tabs on them, why are they keeping tabs on him? sheriff joe keeps tabs on them and wants every move. ♪ [ male announcer ] introducing a stunning work of technology. introducing the entirely new lexus es. and the first-ever es hybrid. this is the pursuit of perfection. . [ owner ] i need to expand to meet the needs of my growing business. but how am i going to fund it? and i have to find a way to manage my cash flow better. [ female announcer ] our wells fargo bankers are here to listen, offer
that began with choosing of paul ryan. you have paul ryan on earlier. paul ryan is absolutely terrific. when you brought him on or when mitt romney brought him ons he had to defend paul ryan's budget. they spent half their days defending the budget of paul ryan in florida, in is have, in ohio, and the other battleground states. my suggestion to mitt romney is, do what ronald reagan did. go around the media. buy air time in florida. buy air time in virginia. buy air time in ohio and dress -- and...
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this was vice-president biden praising paul ryan. >> the paul ryan budget -- paul ryan is a decent, honorable smart guy. i do not want to hear democrats talking about, he is a bad guy. he really thinks for the way for america to own the 21st century is the prescription he has laid out. every republican in the congress obviously thinks so as well. >> why did you pick that? >> i put that video online because i thought it is important for people to know that politics -- there is this demonization that comes about. whether it is from the candidate or the super pac, people demonize the other side. whether they're doing it openly or behind the scenes. with videos like that, it is important for people to know that the other side, they do not necessarily think these people are bad people. >> what do you think of politicians? >> that is a tough question. i do not know. it is tough to tell. some of them are really politicians in the sense that they will shift their views which ever way the wind goes. with someone like mitt romney, who is almost a market-based politician, he changes his views to fit wha
this was vice-president biden praising paul ryan. >> the paul ryan budget -- paul ryan is a decent, honorable smart guy. i do not want to hear democrats talking about, he is a bad guy. he really thinks for the way for america to own the 21st century is the prescription he has laid out. every republican in the congress obviously thinks so as well. >> why did you pick that? >> i put that video online because i thought it is important for people to know that politics -- there is...
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paul ryan is 27 years younger than joe biden. he has youth going for him. does biden have the speed and accuracy. finally, not like the old days. look look back at some real television history. 1956, john gets arrested in 1964 our own dan rather gets bounced in 1968. hi, i'm chris matthews. welcome to the show. with us today, john heilemann, katty kay, helene cooper and joe klein. first up, mitt romney may not have been the love of their life, now he is out in the arena has the republican's champion, a political gladiator who has now thrown down his gauntlet. >> this president can ask us to be patient. this president can tell us it was someone else's fault. this president can tell us that the next four years he'll get it right. but this president cannot tell us that you're better off today than when he took office. chris: john, that is it, that's the gauntlet, can the president and what will he do to answer that charge that he has not made things better? >> is a perennial questions in elections and the case of romney against obama. explicitly and implicitly
paul ryan is 27 years younger than joe biden. he has youth going for him. does biden have the speed and accuracy. finally, not like the old days. look look back at some real television history. 1956, john gets arrested in 1964 our own dan rather gets bounced in 1968. hi, i'm chris matthews. welcome to the show. with us today, john heilemann, katty kay, helene cooper and joe klein. first up, mitt romney may not have been the love of their life, now he is out in the arena has the republican's...
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what did paul ryan do to be save that plant? >> lawrence, i wish you every piece of luck as you pursue that letter. i'm afraid it is unlikely ever to see the light of day. lawrence o'donnell of "the last word," as ever, thank you so much, lawrence. >> thanks, martin. next, it is bubba time. stay with us. [ rosa ] i'm rosa and i quit smoking with chantix. when the doctor told me that i could smoke for the first week... i'm like...yeah, ok... little did i know that one week later i wasn't smoking. [ male announcer ] along with support, chantix is proven to help people quit smoking. it reduces the urge to smoke. some people had changes in behavior, thinking or mood, hostility, agitation, depressed mood and suicidal thoughts or actions while taking or after stopping chantix. if you notice any of these stop taking chantix and call your doctor right away. tell your doctor about any history of depression or other mental health problems, which could get worse while taking chantix. don't take chantix if you've had a serious allergic or s
what did paul ryan do to be save that plant? >> lawrence, i wish you every piece of luck as you pursue that letter. i'm afraid it is unlikely ever to see the light of day. lawrence o'donnell of "the last word," as ever, thank you so much, lawrence. >> thanks, martin. next, it is bubba time. stay with us. [ rosa ] i'm rosa and i quit smoking with chantix. when the doctor told me that i could smoke for the first week... i'm like...yeah, ok... little did i know that one week...
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. >> sean: let's take a look at paul ryan's speech. two of the other best speech, paul ryan and marco rubio did particularly well and we gallon over clint eastwood's speech. in this country, we don't have to settle for what we have going on right now. >> when i was waiting tables, washing ditious or mowing lawns for money, i never thought of myself as stuck in some station in life. i was on my own path. my own journey, an american journey, where i could think for myself, decide for myself, define happiness for myself. that's what we do in this country. that's the american dream! that's freedom. and i'll take it any day over the supervision and the sarchght sarchght -- over the sanctimony of the central planners. >> sean: have you dialed me on occasion. i have not hit those numbers. >> sean, sean, sometimes do you well. but not often do do you that well. that would be in the top 3% of all clips we have tested. im going to tell the viewers something which may surprise them. paul ryan dialed better than mitt romney among independent voter
. >> sean: let's take a look at paul ryan's speech. two of the other best speech, paul ryan and marco rubio did particularly well and we gallon over clint eastwood's speech. in this country, we don't have to settle for what we have going on right now. >> when i was waiting tables, washing ditious or mowing lawns for money, i never thought of myself as stuck in some station in life. i was on my own path. my own journey, an american journey, where i could think for myself, decide for...
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but by picking paul ryan and laying out why he picked paul ryan, he picked paul ryan because paul ryan does represent the ideological -- how do i say it? the center of the republican party. he said, basically, that's why i'm picking paul ryan. now we don't have to guess about what governor romney meands means when he says things about medicare, social security, and all these things. it is almost like two incumbents running. because paul ryan, and i mean this sincerely, paul ryan introduced the ren republican budget in the house of representatives, sold by the republicans, that in fact lays out in stark detail what they would do on everything from medicare to medicaid to social security to education to the debt. i mean, across the board. so we don't have to wonder anymore. we don't have to wonder any more what governor romney means when he says a, b, c, or d. what they are doing these days, if you noticed, they are not talking anymore about what paul ryan and mitt romney are for. they are spending a lot of time telling you what we are against and what we have done. they have attacked ev
but by picking paul ryan and laying out why he picked paul ryan, he picked paul ryan because paul ryan does represent the ideological -- how do i say it? the center of the republican party. he said, basically, that's why i'm picking paul ryan. now we don't have to guess about what governor romney meands means when he says things about medicare, social security, and all these things. it is almost like two incumbents running. because paul ryan, and i mean this sincerely, paul ryan introduced the...
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>> romney has made it difficult for ryan to be paul ryan. like you said, paul ryan was brought on because of these bold ideas. most namely, the ryan plan, the ryan budget proposal. and no sooner had he been brought on mitt romney was retreating from it and paul ryan was not referring to it at all. in fact mitt ryan -- zoo excuse me, mitt romney was -- >> just call him the stench. >> asking him about the $716 billion in medicare cuts that the paul ryan plan would put into effect one of the more controversial portions of it. mitt romney backtracked and said, i'm the guy running for president, not him. i think that in a nutshell sums up the predictment of paul ryan. he can't play to his strengths. >> is it time for more republicans to stand upwind of mitt romney? >> look i think with 41 days -- you're not going to get me to say it. i'm not saying it martin. >> okay. >> with 41 days left in the campaign, and the grumbling we're hearing about let ryan be ryan clearly folks have decided governor romney is beyond help. governor romney doesn't to wa
>> romney has made it difficult for ryan to be paul ryan. like you said, paul ryan was brought on because of these bold ideas. most namely, the ryan plan, the ryan budget proposal. and no sooner had he been brought on mitt romney was retreating from it and paul ryan was not referring to it at all. in fact mitt ryan -- zoo excuse me, mitt romney was -- >> just call him the stench. >> asking him about the $716 billion in medicare cuts that the paul ryan plan would put into...
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and then, there's that other value paul ryan lied about. the thing he and other republicans love to call traditional marriage. which, of course, is not a value at all. marriage is a living arrangement. marriage is a legal agreement. marriage can be a religion-based definition of a relationship. please note that i did not say a religion-based definition between two people. because religion has always allowed, and still allows, for marriages between one man and more than one woman at the same time. in fact, throughout most of human history, the most traditional, which is to say the most popular form of marriage has been between one man and many women at the same time. and throughout human history, the other most traditional component of marriage is that it was arranged. not by the two people who marry, but by the parents of the two people who marry. this thing that mitt romney and paul ryan call traditional marriage, the marriage that is a union between only one man and only one woman and not arranged by their parents, is a tradition that is
and then, there's that other value paul ryan lied about. the thing he and other republicans love to call traditional marriage. which, of course, is not a value at all. marriage is a living arrangement. marriage is a legal agreement. marriage can be a religion-based definition of a relationship. please note that i did not say a religion-based definition between two people. because religion has always allowed, and still allows, for marriages between one man and more than one woman at the same...